Article: 72987 of soc.men Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!enterpoop.mit.edu!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!s109.es.llnl.gov!shawn From: shawn@s109.es.llnl.gov (Shawn Larsen) Newsgroups: soc.men Subject: Re: RUSH LIMBAUGH 800# Date: 30 Jun 1993 23:04:38 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab Lines: 56 Distribution: world Message-ID: <20t666$t02@lll-winken.llnl.gov> References: <20t06g$2kb@Panix.Com> Reply-To: shawn@s109.es.llnl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: s109.es.llnl.gov In article 2kb@Panix.Com, pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes: >In article doug@crevasse.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu writes: >>This is typical of liberals. The ends justify the means, and by all >>means abuse the system to get your way with anyone who dares disagree >>with your politically correct views on everything. Have you ever heard >>of "live and let live?" How about "do unto others as you would have >>them do unto you?" But you couldn't police our thoughts that way now, >>could you? HYPOCRITE!! >Somehow I find this marvelously clueless. The writer seems to have >no notion that he lives in a state whose citizens passed legislation >that is the utter antithesis of the maxims he quotes. If "Live and >let live" were really a conservative motto, then conservatives would >leave women, gays and minorites alone instead of discriminating >against them. They wouldn't advocate firing someone for putting a >picture of their spouse on their desk at work, or beat them up for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Interesting. The following is from the Rush Limbaugh summary for June 10, 1993 (by John Switzer) ... MORNING UPDATE Two or three years ago, this story would have struck people as odd, outrageous, or just plain stupid; unfortunately, it's becoming more and more common. Chris Robeson, graduate student in psychology at the University of Nebraska, has been ordered to remove a picture of his wife wearing a bikini from his office because two female graduate students found it "offensive" and in violation of the school's sexual harassment policy. Department chairman John Berman ordered it removed because he "could see" how some female students who came into the office might find it offensive. School Assistant General Counsel Carmen Moore, who admits she has never even seen the picture, insisted that the photograph had to be removed because the only standard that must be met in order to determine sexual harassment is "the offended women's own reasonable judgment." "Reasonable?" shouts Rush, who points out that there is nothing whatsoever reasonable in this demand. As Rush has stated before, sexual harassment cannot be defined as whatever might offend you, but this is what is happening. "We're going to get so that nobody wants to talk or be near anyone else," Rush warns. "We're drifting apart, folks." End of Excerpt It seems that in this case is was the "politically correct" [liberal] crowd who demanded the prohibition of the spouses picture from a persons office. It just goes to show that right and wrong in the "politically correct" sense seems to depend on the gender/race/orientation of those involved.