Article: 36630 of soc.men Xref: parc soc.men:36630 soc.women:33466 misc.legal:30216 talk.rape:4323 Path: parc!decwrl!mips!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!bronze!kiran From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,misc.legal,talk.rape Subject: Re: Catharine MacKinnon critiques presumption of innocence Message-ID: <1991Dec29.072240.5618@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 91 23:22:40 PST References: <295a7b33.1d99@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> <1991Dec28.222755.17691@midway.uchicago.edu> <1991Dec29.005652.4935@parc.xerox.com> <1991Dec29.013423.21820@midway.uchicago.edu> Distribution: na Organization: Indiana University Lines: 37 thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes: >I mentioned NOW to demonstrate that MacKinnon's wholesale attack on >the First Amendment (of which only the tip of the iceberg has been >posted) is not supported by most feminists, as other posters have >implied. I would be surprised if MacKinnon et al. were supported by most feminists. For the notion of rights, of a government of laws, have led to many victories for women. But unfortunately, many feminist legal scholars do support MacKinnon's views. And they are dangerous views. Michael Weiss, writing in _Reason_ magazine, details the views of some of these feminist legal scholars. Their attack is not only on the first amendment, but on the entire legal system which has given both men and women those things called "rights". "Our legal system rests on an ethnocentric, androcentric racist Christian, and class-based vision of reality and human nature, all of which makes it inherently flawed," writes Syracuse University law prof Leslie Bender. "All of our norms and standards have been male. If we extract the male biases from our language, method, and structures, we will have nothing--no words, no concepts, no science, no methods, no law." Indeed their attack goes further, to the whole of reality itself. "Feminist analysis begins with the principle that objective reality is a myth," writes Ann Scales of the University of New Mexico. If these so-called legal scholars succeed in their goal of abolishing the notion of rights, of rights violated, of government not of "men" but of laws, even of reality, what then? -- ...kiran ______kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu______(812) 332-5589 From the corrections column in a July Fresno, CA _Bee_: