X-Added: With Flames (bblib $Revision: 1.4 $) Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for bb+graffiti.bboard-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu ID ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA07071 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:04:20 -0500 Received: from chaos (chaos.gordian.com [192.73.220.110]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.6.9/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA01898 for <@gordius.gordian.com:bb+graffiti.bboard-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu>; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:17 -0800 Received: by chaos (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @gordius.gordian.com:bb+graffiti.bboard-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu id AA02685; Thu, 3 Nov 94 17:04:15 -0800 Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.chaos.sgi.4d via MS.5.6.chaos.sgi_4d; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <0iiMWD30GRliE8o7d=@chaos> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jay Laefer To: bb+graffiti.bboard-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Fwd: Newsgroups at Carnegie Mellon References: I sent this to the EFF today. Since I'm no longer directly affiliated with CMU, would anyone be willing to be the contact point instead? -Jay ------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:01:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jay Laefer To: ssteele@eff.org Subject: Newsgroups at Carnegie Mellon Ms. Steele: Carnegie Mellon University has just announced that on Tuesday, November 8th, they will remove the following newsgroups from the campus system: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless alt.sex alt.sex.* rec.arts.erotica The stated reason for their removal is that minors (under 18) have access to these newsgroups. According to the University, Pennsylvania law prohibits the distribution of "sexually explicit" materials to minors. Therefore, to prevent criminal liability, the University intends to prevent the general campus community, the vast majority of whom are 18 or over, from reading these newsgroups. It is, as yet, unclear what the University will do about local bboards that contain "sexually explicit" material. I do not know if anyone from Carnegie Mellon has contacted the EFF about this yet, or what, if anything, the EFF can do to help the Carnegie Mellon community do to fight this. My own position is somewhat tenuous. I am a Carnegie Mellon alum (BS Math/CS '93) who no longer resides in Pittsburgh, and my computer account is sponsored by Computing Services, the division that has initiated this policy. I can, however, put you in touch with current students and staff members at the University and would be happy to do so. I am appending several items, including the University's announcement and their form letter reply to inquiries. I appreciate your time and attention to this matter. -Jay Laefer jay@gordian.com laefer+@cmu.edu -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 12:00:59 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Joseph Kuszewski To: RBBs Subject: Sexually Explicit Bboards During the next few days, the university will be withdrawing some netnews bulletin board subscriptions from the public computer systems. This action is in response to a new university policy which is outlined below. The university's policy is to carry a very wide range of bulletin boards for the community, with no monitoring of the bulletin board contents. However, Pennsylvania laws prohibits us from carrying bulletin boards that are known to be used for the distribution of sexually explicit or obscene material. It is against the law for anybody to knowingly distribute sexually explicit materials to people under the age of 18, or obscene materials to people of any age. Issues of free speech are always important to a university. Therefore, the only criterion that will be used when considering the withdrawal of a bulletin board is that either the intended purpose for which it was established or its primary use (majority of the posts) makes it illegal for Computing Services to provide access to the bulletin board. Because the university does not monitor the contents of bulletin boards, there is always the chance that sexually explicit or obscene material may be posted and available. Any reported incidents of such materials will be handled on a case by case basis. Computing Services will implement this policy on Tuesday, November 8th by removing the following bulletin board trees: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless alt.sex alt.sex.* rec.arts.erotica Bob Kuszewski Computing Services --------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:06:08 -0500 From: Advisor Filing System Subject: Re: Fwd: Sexually Explicit Bboards (FINAL ANSWER 85.315) Over the past few months a Carnegie Mellon research project has been studying the use of sexually explicit bulletin boards. It appears that, due to their content, the act of carrying a small number of Netnews bulletin boards may be illegal in Pennsylvania. In the interest of free speech, the university carries a very wide range of bulletin boards for the community with no monitoring of their contents; however, it is a criminal offense to knowingly disseminate sexually explicit material to minors or obscene material to people of any age. We have to be particularly careful because some of the users of our bulletin board system are under the age of 18. This issue was discussed at the Academic Council on October 26. It was agreed that, in order to comply with the law, the university will not carry any bulletin board whose stated purpose is to distribute sexually explicit or obscene material, or that is known to contain a high percentage of such material. In other aspects our policies concerning access to bulletin boards are unchanged. We will continue to mount all the Netnews bulletin boards that the law permits and will not monitor their content. Computing Services will implement this policy on Tuesday, November 8th by removing the following bulletin board trees. alt.binaries.pictures.erotica alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless alt.sex alt.sex.* rec.arts.erotica The following are answers to common questions regarding the removal of these illegal bulletin boards which we hope will help you to understand the rationale regarding this change: Q. Is this censorship? A. The criteria for removing a bboard is not whether the material is offensive, but whether making the material available to minors violates criminal law. Q. Who made this decision? A. It was proposed by Bill Arms, Vice President for Computing Services, and approved by the Academic Council. Q. Why now? A. A Carnegie Mellon study has identified the problem. As soon as the problem became known, the university had a legal obligation to act. Q. Why is rec.arts.erotica being removed? A. The material on rec.arts.erotica is sexually explicit and cannot be distributed to minors. There is no practical way to restrict minors from accessing this information, short of removing the bulletin boards. Jarrod Siket advisor+@andrew.cmu.edu